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melissa forberg's avatar

The "right to hunt" is unfortunately on the ballot in Florida in November as a constitutional amendment. This initiative includes wording such as "traditional methods" and "preferred method of population management". Florida voters may be lulled into just reading the name and not do any deeper dive into the wording. I will be fighting this! Noto2.org contains good info.

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Ed Boks's avatar

Thanks for the tip, Melissa. I'll look into this.

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Ed Boks's avatar

Melissa, thank you for bringing this important issue to my attention! It's important for voters to be informed about the implications of such amendments, especially when they involve complex topics like wildlife management. Your efforts to raise awareness and encourage others to dive deeper into the wording of the amendment are commendable. Keep up the great work with NoTo2.org, and know that your passion and dedication can make a difference in how people understand and vote on these issues.

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gizmos7's avatar

It's wrong to hunt foxes to kill them . They have a right to be here.l fed the foxes where l lived l miss them.I moved house and l still hope that someone else will feed them in winter.

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SquizzRadical's avatar

I agree with you. Sport hunting should be banned entirely, there's no need for this.

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Michael D Metzler's avatar

Glad to see you raising the question of how to balance the conflicts between tradition and ethics. Humans seem to be very attached to the idea that it's good to do something again because it's what we did before. There are so many practices that go on decade after decade solely because "we have always done this," despite obvious ethical failings.

Ethically deficient practices are usually justified on the basis of tradition, religion, or culture. But the job of attacking disgusting human behaviors has been made difficult by the long history of unjustified attacks on indigenous cultural practice- often in the name of a dominant religion.

Getting past the religious and ethnic justifications for cruelty can be dicey. Anthropologists introduced the concept of cultural relativity in part to counteract the destructive mindset of colonialism. And while it is a useful concept, it raises doubts about the idea that some sorts of behavior might be universally unacceptable.

In the 1500's, the Spanish conqistadors destroyed massive collections of Mesoamerican art and writing, a great loss to humanity. But they were reacting, in part, to the Aztec practice of human sacrifice. Would we, in this day and age, protect Aztec child sacrifice because it is an indigenous tradition? I will go out on a limb and guess that the answer is "No!"

I continue to puzzle over people's strong attachment to divisive identities, whether ethnic, religious or political. I would like to suggest that our identity as human beings should take precedence over other sub-identities, and above that, our identity as members of the living earth. And I will go further by asserting that we should continue to to root out cruelty regardless of its connection to cultural tradition, religious practice or indigenous/ethic identity.

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Ed Boks's avatar

Michael, thank you for sharing such a thoughtful and nuanced perspective. Balancing tradition with ethics is a complex challenge, especially when historical and cultural contexts are involved. Your point about prioritizing our shared identity as human beings and members of the living earth is powerful and resonates deeply. It's important to engage in open dialogues that respect cultural differences while advocating for universal ethical standards. By fostering understanding and compassion, we can work towards a more humane world for all. Your insights contribute meaningfully to this ongoing conversation, and I'm grateful for your engagement.

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Thomas D’Arcy O’Donnell's avatar

Was thinking earlier this morning - of 'Harsh Realities In Canada... as well as other Lands. But our Failures in Canada Eh! We have some 'problems in our own backyard Ed! And they tend to come 'attached to 'Partisan Politics - ie what was once known as 'Governance - via Elected 'Public Servants' More & more am seeing the 'world shrink - via Media' - and whether it's OverPopulation or Totally Out Of Balance Population Growth - it's UnDeniably REAL.

That we may read about Japanese 'Whaling For Science.. (they eat the Data?) or AirDropping Strychnine Laced Poison Meat Baits 'To Save The Boreal Caribou of Alberta.. or whatever it is about 'Badgers In The British Hedgerows.. that they must be rooted out ? Well these ‘matters - can simply 'buffalo me! Yes, our East Coast Fishery COLLAPSED a generation ago - but ensuring Japan gets its Fair Share of Farmed British Columbia Salmon seems 'Mission Critical .. & Mention 'METHANE' in context to Irish Cows earns one Dark Looks in most pubs !

I promise to keep up with comments re the Hunt. but will observe from a safe distance, pitchfork close at hand - horses are iconic > throughout my entire life & the intrepid reader may find one of my 'horsy tales.. that catches my deceptive ‘farm lad culture when invited into ‘higher social circles haha ! I ‘learned to drive age 12 & was behind horses - not a steering wheel .. ! 🦎🏴‍☠️

https://thomasdarcyodonnell.substack.com/p/night-of-the-royal

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Ed Boks's avatar

Thomas, thank you for sharing your thoughts! It's clear you're reflecting on some complex and challenging issues, both globally and within Canada. It's important to recognize the problems in our own communities while also being aware of the broader global context. Balancing these perspectives can be overwhelming, but it's great to see you're staying engaged and thoughtful. Let's hope for more constructive dialogues and solutions moving forward. If you ever want to share more of your 'horsy tales,' they sound like a fascinating read!

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SquizzRadical's avatar

I'm Nova Scotian and will NEVER understand the federal government giving larger quotas to foriegn fishing boats, than the domestic ones. People still fish as a way to survive!

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Ed Boks's avatar

Squizz, I understand your frustration. It's challenging to see policies that seem to prioritize foreign interests over local livelihoods, especially when fishing is such a vital part of the community's way of life. It's important for local voices to be heard in these decisions, and I hope there can be a shift towards policies that better support domestic fishermen and their families. Thank you for sharing your perspective!

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Yvonne Higgins Leach's avatar

It’s like rodeos — just because it’s a rural cultural tradition doesn’t give it any excuse to continue.

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David Wiggin's avatar

A lot of animal abuse is traditional.

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Ed Boks's avatar

True enough, David, tradition is a powerful force, but compassion should be our guiding light. As we evolve, so too should our practices, ensuring they reflect kindness over custom.

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David Wiggin's avatar

Absolutely. Empathy. Vegan. Zero animal use.

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Lola Renda's avatar

Had enough of these stories years and years ago as an idiot on Facebook. “Belonged” to most organizations related to animal welfare. Cannot take in anymore.

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Ed Boks's avatar

Lola, I completely understand where you're coming from. It can be overwhelming to constantly hear about these issues, especially when you're passionate about animal welfare. It's important to take care of yourself and find a balance that works for you. Remember, even small actions can make a difference, and it's okay to step back when you need to recharge. Thank you for your past involvement and care for animals!

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SquizzRadical's avatar

The protected belief of hunting should only be given to indigenous people. White people are not indigenous. A gun or rifle is not a traditional method. We have this thing happening in Ontario with the Ford government, it's really just cruelty. (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/animal-groups-review-ontario-hunting-law-1.7156718#:~:text=Last%20year%2C%20after%20lobbying%20from,Federation%20of%20Anglers%20and%20Hunters.)

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Ed Boks's avatar

Thank you for sharing, Squizz. It is important to recognize and respect the traditional rights of Indigenous communities while also examining the broader implications of hunting laws. The situation in Ontario, as highlighted in the article you sent, raises significant concerns about animal welfare and the influence of political decisions. Your passion and commitment to advocating for humane practices are commendable. Let's hope for thoughtful dialogue and policies that prioritize both cultural respect and animal protection.

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